Discussion Old School / Retro Porn / Vintage Discussion and Request thread

[caseybrown911]

Here's a question. "Creampies" (cumming inside a girl and then letting the cum leak out) were exceptionally rare in porn up until about the early 2000's, by my memory. They occurred *very* rarely during the videotape era and I can't recall seeing any from the Golden Age of Porn.

Were they just "not a thing", or was it that audiences wanted to see a guy cum to actually believe that he did? Or are creampies just easier to capture visually with modern digital filming technology?

I just find it interesting that creampies are so popular now but there was a time once when they were pretty much unheard of.

I think that you hit the nail on the head on a few points. The kink has grown in the last 20 years, plus with 4k you really get to see it "all" up close with a vag shot. Also could be with more effective contraception and the invention of the day after pill, to really minimize the chances of getting prego. Just my take, love seeing some retro interracial creampies though!

 

[Trash_Can]

Here's a question. "Creampies" (cumming inside a girl and then letting the cum leak out) were exceptionally rare in porn up until about the early 2000's, by my memory. They occurred *very* rarely during the videotape era and I can't recall seeing any from the Golden Age of Porn.

Were they just "not a thing", or was it that audiences wanted to see a guy cum to actually believe that he did? Or are creampies just easier to capture visually with modern digital filming technology?

I just find it interesting that creampies are so popular now but there was a time once when they were pretty much unheard of.

It's totally because of the ability to see it. You're watching a visual medium and if it's internal you can't see it, and it's easy to fake. They're called "money shots" for a reason. That's where the producers made their money for the scene. That's what people wanted to see. Although in the golden age they hadn't yet figured out that literally no one wanted to see cuts to the male stars making goofy "O" faces in the middle of the cumshots. lol.

The recent "kink" is most likely the result of all the right-wing "breeding" bullshit circulating these days.

 

[Nis Randers]

From the early 1990s to the mid-2000s, fears about AIDS were at their highest. That certainly played a role. I was 18 in 2001, and during that time, each of us only had sex with condoms.

 

[br0k3nglass]

The rules of a "Megathread" is that you have to post some sort of external link, in the case of the retro thread some sort of database link (like IAFD) or if push comes to shove *maybe* a wikipedia link. Look at all of my posts on the other thread, there will be an IAFD link right under the title of the film.

As far as I know the Alicia I'm referring to doesn't have an entry on IAFD to Wikipedia. I had included 2 or 3 links to external sites containing her biography, one of which was an archived version of her Flashybabes profile.

Edit: and nevermind, I found my post...not sure what happened to make me think it was deleted haha

 

[holytitties6969]

From the early 1990s to the mid-2000s, fears about AIDS were at their highest. That certainly played a role. I was 18 in 2001, and during that time, each of us only had sex with condoms.

The first time I had sex raw I was 21 and it me and my girlfriends at the times first time each having sex without one. Even though we were faithful to each other we both had an irrational fear of getting STDs. Propaganda has an insane effect on the your psyche. I will say that the first time it was raw was such a sensation for me I busted a nut in about 2 minutes.

 

[RickFBerger3]

Were they just "not a thing", or was it that audiences wanted to see a guy cum to actually believe that he did? Or are creampies just easier to capture visually with modern digital filming technology?

In America in the 1980s, there was a justified fear of sexual diseases. AIDS was an absolute terror, but even chlamydia was something to be frightened of. I recall Avy Scott saying once she didn't know another woman performer who hadn't grappled with that problem. Historians will confirm that stag films showed men cumming inside and around women even before sound was added to film. The most low-resolution, monochromatic pictures you'll ever see with absolute amateurs had internal ejaculation.

But porn becoming a genuine industry coincided not just with the rise of STDs but a rise in enforcement of "decency" standards. It seems ridiculous that producers were so afraid of tripping obscenity alarms while, at the same time, being seemingly willingly negligent in doing background checks on their actresses.

I would (very) clearly remember if I'd ever seen an internal ejaculation in a feature screened at a theater during the early '80s. Even getting anal sex onto the screen was an achievement then. I've read that one of the first breakthroughs (literally) in internal, or near-internal, ejaculation may have come from the first scene of the 1985 movie Caught From Behind 3, when Ron Jeremy explodes into Ali Moore's open asshole, which she then winks for us, before Ron re-enters and finishes the job. I don't want to imagine the clean-up job the theater janitor had after that one was screened. A bit ironic, if the facts hold up, if anal creampies preceded vaginal. I believe the first genuine vaginal creampie I saw was in one of the Dirty Debutantes series, which (sadly) featured Ed Powers, and which I don't believe was ever screened in a theater. The first one I ever saw done properly and done well was from Seymore Butts, but that would've been 1994. I know there are earlier instances than that, but they were very hard to find.

I know full-on internal combustion can be dangerous, but I also know the best women performers take immaculate care of their bodies now. So it's just a better scene when the man/men cum inside the woman. There was a day when gangbang scenes were typically staged as rape or assault, which for me was always a turn-off. But Gangbang Creampie found the right formula of mass appreciation of beautiful bodies, and damn it, I can't help myself, there has always been something beautifully primal about watching the girl get filled up. If I can't be there to give it to her, I want to see the girl get as much as she can possibly come away with. If I want to watch a guy getting off with his own hand, I'll find a mirror.

RFB3